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22 Apr 2025 15:39:55
Apparently, WHU have confirmed that Alvarez will be allowed to leave in the summer. The same source also says that it's 90% certain Kudus will be sold. If, as expected, Paqueta goes, and Soucek joins him, we'll need to go back to the midfield drawing board. I can't see JWP being sold if that is the case. ?
1.) 22 Apr 2025 16:58:09
Great of all the midfielders we have we can keep the the worst and slowest.
2.) 22 Apr 2025 17:15:34
By some accounts Alvarez got the mysterious back injury after he had a falling out with Potter.
3.) 22 Apr 2025 18:48:28
Think they said kudus was 99% chance of going, the quotes most likely from sullivan are awful small, selling club mentality it's likes he's given up or gone senile.
Now saying potter doesn't want soucek and we will probably only get 12-15m for him, ok maybe but at least let's see how far Moyes will push Everton like he done when he wanted JWP and we paid twice what he's worth.
Embarrassing from the club. Shame many fell for the stiedten blame and calling for his head.
4.) 23 Apr 2025 07:44:15
I am a Moyes fan and was concerned when he left. Loppy and Potter are inferior to Moyes. I believe we will regret the day the man left. 8th will get a team in Europe next season, with Moyes, that would've been us. He was a 7th-9th positional manager.
5.) 23 Apr 2025 09:42:31
IMO Moyes wasn’t bad in the first season back then covid season and some of the season after. I know many on here have always hated Moyes one of them. But I think teams found us out and didn’t allow us to hit them on the counter attack and also the constant playing of the same 11 players tired them out. We also were better with Rice playing further back as protection for the defence, when he started playing further forward the results went down. I think Moyes will do well at Everton as he has so far this season and maybe next season but after that the cracks will show and Everton fans will be calling for his head like we were. In the end i definitely joined the Moyes out brigade.My opinions change over time sometimes they are right sometimes they are wrong I listen to what people say on forums like this and don’t have all the information . For example I thought Potter played attractive football but when some on here quoted his stats and I checked it, I didn’t want to go for Potter, as his attacking stats are so poor.
Back around October I was one of the few advocating keeping Loppy, not because I thought he was any good, he definitely wasn’t but I never thought we would get relegated as stated then, simply because at the time there were 5 or 6 teams far worse than us. We should have limped through to the seasons end and then got a more appropriate manager. We would definitely ended up in a better position than we are now and whilst we probably would have got battered in some games like arsenal and Liverpool but we may have actually seen some entertainment. I ended up adopting the Loppy out team as ithe anti-Loppy feeling was unstoppable.
What is annoying me is the absolute vitriol people were coming on here with about getting rid of Loppy because ‘Potters the man ‘ go get Potter but now it’s all gone so horribly wrong and some of us are quite vocal about our dislike of the current manager, we are being told we shouldn’t be critical and he needs a transfer window. If it was so right to lambast the last disastrous manager why is it so wrong to criticise this fool. As I have always said happy for potter to prove me wrong but having wasted so many dead rubbers thus far and his previous managerial history I just can’t see this happening.
Rant over ……… and breathe. ……
6.) 23 Apr 2025 10:43:50
Apologies, having reread my previous message I see plenty of typo’s (probably the same for most of my posts) sorry it is the curse of dyslexia ?
7.) 23 Apr 2025 20:22:04
Hammer D. I think we look more secure with Potter defensively. I think the large defeats are now gone, although I do agree with you. We need to play the ball forward quicker, and we badly require quicker players. Arsenal Wenger said ‘You can teach skill, but you can’t teach speed.’ Never a truer quote.
23 Mar 2025 13:11:46
Does anyone know if the rumour that we are interested in Sunderland's young wonder kid Chris Rigg has legs? I hope so. He looks a real prospect.
1.) 23 Mar 2025 21:22:39
WH are interested, so are a lengthy list of others, this is WH problem, they need to find people, that are not in the press, or being chased by top clubs, like. Brentford, Bournemouth, and. Brighton, until they start employing those methods, we will find player recruitment difficult
05 Mar 2025 06:22:44
One rumour report in Spain has linked Lopetegui with the Man Utd job should under pressure Ruben Amorim and the Mancunians decide to part company. Allegedly, Lopetegui is one of three favourites to replace Amorim! The other two are Laurel and Hardy.
1.) 05 Mar 2025 09:37:07
It would be a match made in Heaven! ??
2.) 05 Mar 2025 16:16:15
Wow what sweet irony that would be. One manager who many were furious we never went for, who turns out may not be that great. Then gets replaced by one of our greatest failed managers……. ??? absolutely hilarious
08 Jan 2025 08:32:17
So it seems Lopetegui will be sacked today with Potter announced shortly after, or tomorrow. Allegedly, he has a 2.5 years contract with 'break' clauses and has been given a budget for transfers.
22 Oct 2024 15:10:43
Any substance to the German Sky rumour of JLop being replaced by Edin Terzic?
1.) 22 Oct 2024 16:58:45
Mentioned him in Saturday night post underneath, he’s got quality Steidten knows him well, and he ran BVB very well, there are some things to consider firstly, no clubs went for him in close season? And would he fancy West Ham, and no doubt he would have to stick with majority of players we have already, owing to cash restraints.
it would be a big call, but listen Loppy is lost, so if a reasonable deal can be done, why not, to be frank I have been at all our games so far, and apart from possession stats, and we are playing a little further forward at the back, can’t see any other difference to last season, can you?
2.) 23 Oct 2024 03:17:00
Sad to say it, but JLop appears to be another Moyes in disguise. I can’t understand why all these people are saying that JLop should be given time. Just how long do you want to give him? To my mind, it’s plainly obvious he’s not only clueless, but he’s also lost the dressing room. That position is irretrievable. He has to go now before the season is lost.
Terzic knows the club, and he can’t be any worse than Moyes 1 and 2. If we don’t get our skates on, he might end up in Milan. Trouble is, we have a complete idiot majority shareholder who thinks he’s a general and wears badges to prove it! Need I say more?
3.) 23 Oct 2024 11:22:01
Unless we are extraordinarily, lucky come Sunday, I just don’t see were the goals are coming from, said the Same since the window, totally ridiculous to spend all that money in the knowledge, that all you have is one injury prone striker, one striker way past his time, and one striker. Who never should have been signed in the first place, just total nuts, , whatever arrangements will be made, and they surety will, it’s still 10 weeks till we can actually play new strikers, If we carry on like this we are going to drop to the bottom, it takes courage to make changes, MR SULLIVAN, going to have to find some
4.) 23 Oct 2024 15:12:14
I think we are close to embarrasing ourselves as a fanbase by how many people are calling for J-Lop out so early on. It shows how little some people know about football, and the intricacies and minor margins involved at thsi high level.
Using like for like fixtures (the best way to judge season progression in points vs previous years, as it factors in dificulty of fixtures somewhat) J-Lop so far has the same points as Moyes had in his last 2 seasons, and better or equal goal differnece. Pundits love to say how good Moyse was and be "careful what you wish for" but completely leave out this measure, becasue it un-does their argument that Moyes was doing well or that we should not want to progress or attack more. It also gets them clicks and hype, which is ultimately what they really want.
We have to note that J-Lop is taking over a team that got just 40 points in 22/23 and just 16 points from their last 16 games in 23/24 under Moyse, a relegation team in relegation battle form. Since taking over, 75% of our back line has been replaced along with part of our midfield, our club captain sold for a second year running, our most effetive playmaker is out of sorts mentally it seems, there has been lots of personnell change in the dressing room, and we have still not got a striker or had the chance to use the one we did buy (transfer success is a different topic, not J-Lopr responsibility)
He is also completely changing the way we played under Moyes, and we must expect this change to happen GRADUALLY as we are not going to suddenly be his end product team. He is clearly changing the way we defend fundamentally, and this is hard to do in the lower leagues let alone the PL where the margins are SO very close and teams punish mistakes. Add the fact he is trying to change a Moyes team that would have been drilled and drilled and drilled to their core in a certain way, enough to drive out creativity and make us want Moyes out. Moyes tried last year to be more expansive last year and his team conceded the most we ever have in a PL season, I would have loved Moyse to make us more attacking, but he couldn't unfortunatey and 23/24 proved it. It is hard to change the mentality and instincts of players at all, let alone in just seven game weeks agasint of whcih 4 are against teams in the top seven!
We have seen some big errors by players and i expect them to learn from them and improve GRADUALLY, and J-Lop has a also made some tactical errors too. We should expext this though when a manager is learning a new team and making fundamental changes, and players learn a new style. Ex-player pundits know this, but chose not to talk about it because it makes for good media business when fans get all riled up. Youtubers also use this hype it to get clicks, and fundamentally them doing this is a detriment to the club as it creates negativity. But hey, it gets them clicks even if its to the detriment of the club they "support" . good for them.
To say J-Lop has lost the dressing room is so naive in my opinion, i see no solid evidence of this, so please provide it if you have. And don't just point at a few incidences where there may have been words said in frustration after a game or something, real dressing room loss is multiple players down tooling and that is not evident at all.
Klop got 60 points with Liverpool in his first season, Arteta got 56 for Arsenal, in todays standards both of those resulst is considered sackable for for those teams, yet look where those managers got to. How many Arsenal fans called for Arteta to get sacked and that he didn't know what he was doing, and look at them now. We HAVE to have patience, not get caught up in hype and gaslighting, and see how it pans out after 20 games minimum. The fact some fans are where they are after 7 games is getting embarrasing.
J-Lop was not my first choice, but as a SUPPORTER i will try and be positive and support the team/manager and say how we could be better/improve rather than start to say sack the manager, especially while they have hardly had time to get their teeth into this transition. If i was just a FOLLOWER of West Ham then yeah, maybe i'd just get caught in the hype. A supporter would support encourage and try to instill belief into the team/manager like they would their son in the juniour leagues. A follower will be quick to criticise, point fingers and complain.
Rant over
5.) 23 Oct 2024 16:41:38
I think you make some really good points nicknho-10. Like you and probably 99% of people on here, I didn’t want JLo and am still far from sure if he will be a decent manager for us. His tactics in a few of the games have been unbelievably bad. Hopefully he is not pig headed enough to not learn by his mistakes. I am not sure we have the quality of players in midfield to play how he wants us to. There is only a certain amount of training you can do to improve players. And if it is the case that we don’t have the quality in those positions then you need to look at the recruitment. The striker position as stated by joyful is a joke.
Many people want this guy Tezic that was part of bilic’s side. Whilst Bilic’s first season was absolutely brilliant our best since the boys of 86, the second season was appalling and has since showed himself to be totally clueless as a league manager, great guy but crap manager. Maybe his side kick would be good but this guy deserves a chance. I refer again to the Bournemouth manager and the start he had which made JLos look like champions league form. But they stuck with him and now they are doing great even better than Eddie Howe did. Another one people wanted was Fonseca, who within weeks was absolutely hated by Milan fans. Then we have Glasner who did really well at the end of last season and people on here were saying how we missed a trick! I’m not so sure now!
As I have said maybe this guy isn’t the right man for the job but you have to give people a fair chance, or we are going to start sounding like Chelsea or Man U fans.
6.) 23 Oct 2024 19:14:07
Sorry, but I can’t agree with some of the things said here. JLop has been in post 5 MONTHS today. I have seen no sign of any major changes in the style of play and my evidence of his lack of ideas is based on his consecutive team selections and his total lack of tactical changes when games cry out for them. These are not odd occurrences, but seem to be the norm under this coach. I’m sorry, but I’ve had enough of giving our last two head coaches “time to turn things around.” That attitude is the very reason why we never seem to move on, and it’s nothing to do with one’s “understanding of football”. It’s basic common sense.
7.) 23 Oct 2024 19:24:35
I see what you are trying to put over, BUT firstly for the main part, we have brought in quality players all experienced people, professionals before they came to West Ham, not ours or another teams kids, it’s the managers job to blend and instruct them, we see little of that.
Loppy got the two players he wanted the most, and Steidten discussed every other purchase thoroughly with him and Sullivan, plus Brady, of course, he did NOT go out on a, solo mission, 4 players that were originally wanted went elsewhere, but alternates were agreed upon before purchases were made, so responsibility is shared.
you mention other managers in the past, , and in context you are correct, but none performed as badly as we have for sure, problem is if you leave Loppy in position, for another 10 games, will another manager have sufficient time and games to sort us out, that’s the problem Nickinho
8.) 24 Oct 2024 01:19:53
I’ve now heard from two separate sources, both very reliable in the past and both connected to the club, that the board are showing strong interest in and talking to a Premiership manager who is currently in post with a Premiership club. This particular manager would want greater control than just being a chief coach, and that would put Tim Steidten in a vulnerable position. By all accounts, Sullivan is not that impressed with Steidten. My guess is that the manager in question is Thomas Frank. I bloody well hope so. Watch this space.
9.) 24 Oct 2024 05:45:26
Well it's started . Whetstone is trying to throw steitden under the bus . No doubt under the instruction of the dwarf shyster .
10.) 24 Oct 2024 07:30:28
The appointment of JLop was a Sullivan decision, allegedly despite objections by several members of the board and him not being the first choice of any supporter. It is obvious that the decision was a mistake. Sullivan is clearly now desperately going to find a scapegoat to take the blame. It’s in his DNA. Steidten is the obvious candidate.
11.) 24 Oct 2024 11:27:41
Of course, if we leave it until the New Year to “give JLop time”, and he fails, by definition that means we will be facing yet another relegation battle and we will need a “fire brigade” type manager. Bang goes the opportunity to appoint a progressive manager. That is another good reason why the board needs to act now and get shot of this millstone of a coach. Or is that also not thinking about the intricacies and minor margins involved at this high level?
12.) 24 Oct 2024 15:18:33
Hammer-D you make good points with Fonseca, Glasner and even Iraola. Even more examples of what i am trying to say, we HAVE to give reasonable time to managers, especially when so much change is underway.
I see no opportunity for a progressive manager right now, who is available? Nobody of any decent pedegree, and none would want to come here if they only have 5-7 games to prove themselves before some fans turn on them, and especially none that a majority of fans want whom is realistic. To add more to this point, a club should NEVER base a manager decision on fan opinion, that would make us a joke club. We could roll the dice on someone who is the next Pep, but if they have a bad start then the sack gang will be bouncing off walls and asking for them to be sacked after 5-7 games aslo.
I am NOT saying J-Lop is the great massaih we have been waiting for, but you do not get the Real Madrid or Spain jobs lightly, and he deserves time and support from fans. I believe the first 3rd of the season is the WORST we will see us under J-Lop, and we are still performing at 43+ points a season currently and i expect over time he will get us doing better, yet fans panis. We have played 4 of the top seven, and 2 of the others have been in form teams in Fulham (away) and Brentford (away) of which both we drew. What games did you honestly EXPECT more from results wise?
You honestly underestimate how hard it is to change the ethos in a team after a manager like Moyes and his drill drill drill approach. Even Declan said that he realised how little he really knew about football until he worked under Arteta, so imagine trying to change 11-15 plpayers from that Moyes mould. Some fans really do not comprehend the difficulty there, and simply expect it to be done in just 5 games.
J-Lopp makes changes all the time, and thankfully he does them earlier than Moyse ever did, i see that as a positive upgrade, if you don't see that then have your eyes checked. If they have not worked yet then how much of that could be down to player errors, I doubt you even consider that as you just point finger at a manager. I accept players and manager could make errors, and allow for these after so few games, they will hopefully learn and get better, but you won't know if you do not give them time. I agree he got it ALL wrong vs Chelsea, but again there were huge individual errors there that need to be addressed and coached out over time.
I fully expected mid table fluctuation this year given all we are trying to do.
You call for a new manager, but firstly who? and secondly, it is just as possible that a new manager now could start badly and plunge us into an actual relegation battle. What would you say in December if we had a new manager now and we are still only 4 points from relegation? Would you be consistent and call for the sack AGAIN.
13.) 24 Oct 2024 19:33:20
No matter who the manager, or when, I will always push for his removal if he’s the wrong man for the job.
14.) 24 Oct 2024 20:42:53
About time people started calling Tinlegs out on his utter nonsense regularly posted. It’s never specific, the posts contain vague generic statements. He never makes positive suggestions, or even suggestions. Constantly calling for managers heads and talks like he is an authority on the subject.
15.) 25 Oct 2024 11:31:08
? Hello mate! It’s been a while. I was wondering when you would reappear under a new identity with personal attacks. Welcome back! ?
16.) 25 Oct 2024 11:35:14
"No matter who the manager, or when, I will always push for his removal if he’s the wrong man for the job"
You forget that this is only YOUR OPINION, which could be wrong, and is based on 6-8 games, against predominantly good opposition, and voicing these kinds of opinions only brings negativity to the club and makes situations worse and harder for players and manager.
Its already clearly proven (with 3 recent PL case studies) that managers can get off to poor starts and still turn out to be very successful despite a minority of fans calling for them to be sacked (who were all proven WRONG) . You are entitled to your opinions, but it baffles me why any supporter would want to cast such negativitiy and pressure onto the club they support so early into a manger's time when they know they COULD be wrong, and are basing those opinions and incredibly early assessments on such a small sample size.
We all support the same club so I am confident that we all want what we THINK is best for it, but all this current sack hype does is make the situation worse. If we are the 12th man for our club then we should be supporting it and getting behind players and the manager. Keep your opinion, its valid, but turn it into positivity if you want to voice it at such an early stage, and try to support the club rather than undermine it. In the early stages of change we should create an atmosphere of belief and positivity, not criticism and negativity.
17.) 25 Oct 2024 14:10:49
I totally agree. I can only give my opinion, and that is exactly what I’ve been doing. If you read my posts back to the time of JLop’s appointment, although he was not my choice, I gave him my support and it’s only recently that I’ve come to the conclusion that enough is enough and he should go. That despite major reservations over his team selections and substitutions. But there must come a time when patience expires, and for me that time is now. I cannot see any signs of improvement. In fact, in some ways, I think we are worse off, even after spending around £155 million! I’m sure I’m not alone in this opinion, but a certain contributor goes out of his way to single me out and turn this into a personal attack. I don’t mind because no amount of insults will change my opinion. I will continue to give my opinion, be it right or wrong (none of us are perfect), about a club I love and have supported man and boy for 61 years.
18.) 25 Oct 2024 14:48:50
Oh and Caligula (or whatever you call yourself now), you can stop checking your own ‘agree’ box on your post now. It looks too obvious. ?
19.) 25 Oct 2024 15:57:58
I have no idea what your talking about mate. Long term reader first time poster.
20.) 25 Oct 2024 15:59:32
Tin legs, obviously I am in broad. Agreement with you but, Nickinho, the point is this? When is it enough games played for you? 15/20 /25 games in? I have been watching WH for many, many years as well, I do not regard myself as a great tactician, or strategist, I am sat a dozen rows behind our bench, and myself and mates cannot work out what Loppy is doing or shouting out during the games, he’s not connecting for sure with the team, in a way I hope Tin legs and myself are wrong, and that we beat Man U on Sunday, and go on a winning streak and get many points , but I just don’t see it, you are entitled to your opinion, and I am giving you mine after 8 league plus 2 cup equals 10 games played, it’s been poor, we have apart from Guilherme and Fulkrug, many players who. Could play elsewhere in premier league, it’s a decent squad but lacking strikers, we must be able though to do better. Than we have so far, on the money spent ratio table, WH should be in or around 8 th position, doesn’t look like Loppy is getting the best out of our players
21.) 25 Oct 2024 20:22:20
Actually, I think we stand a decent chance of beating Man Utd. It all depends on the starting XI and how he sets us up, plus the players’ attitude on the day. Man Utd and ten Hag have also got a point to prove, so it’s difficult to call. Who knows?
22.) 25 Oct 2024 21:38:56
Agreed, but Bowen apart where are the goals coming from? Watching Forest at the moment, they have massively improved, that’s going to be tough, game, we are Playing them shortly, for me we are playing well short of potential can Loppy sort it out, according to some of our fans on here, he can, I hope they are right, we shall see
23.) 25 Oct 2024 22:52:39
I think the bottom is, where will we finish in the league this season. By the look of it not in Europe. I think mid table, I can’t see us being near the relegation area, but could be wrong.
I take joyful points in regards to Loppy going mental on the sidelines barking confusing orders we are definitely missing some team spirit and cohesion because if we have that that helps make up for areas where we are lacking. So he does need to sort it out. But I don’t think we should be ditching him now it just isn’t good.
As Nick says what progressive young manager would want to come to us if he thinks I have 5 games to get it right because if I don’t the fans will be wanting me out. I can’t think of any club that has had this approach, that has materialised in a great trophy winning side. At the higher level you can see by Man U, Spurs and Chelsea this revolving door policy has been a failure.
Ferguson is the only Man U manager who has had any success and it took him a number of years. Mourinho and Anchelotti were the only successful managers at Chelsea and since Abramovic ditched Carlo their progression has been downward yet have spent so much money. There are some sides below our level that are cautionary tales and they are Southampton and Watford both of whom have had some decent managers but got rid of them far too quickly not giving them a chance. You don’t need me to say what happened to them.
The problem we have at the moment is exasperated by social media and the pro Moyes pundits having a giggle and twisting the knife but the players and staff must pick up on it and it must affect how they play if they are petrified of making a mistake. Rather than having the crowd fully behind them.
People have said how we should be moving onto the next level, whilst on paper I think we have a much better squad than last season. But we have no striker no proper pace or ingenuity in midfield and our 2 star players don’t seem to be doing us any favours at all. I think we are still some way to move on to the next level. But there is more chance if we can develop some team spirit and togetherness . That’s my take it.
24.) 26 Oct 2024 20:52:42
Maybe the players we have at the club are a little thick
JLop is trying you can see this.
I believe we still need to give a little more time, fingers crossed it works out.
25.) 28 Oct 2024 04:13:51
I haven't been on for quite a while but I don't believe people are still digging tinny out, the point he makes are spot on and posters get a kick out of singling him out by the way its WHORYA how are you tinny keep posting fella some people have minute knowledge on football and all I'm interested in is WHUFC and our main problem is the POISONED DWARF and LADY PENOLOPE the quicker we are shot of them the better and let KRETINSKY be the main shareholder as he is a very shrewd businessman and imo is fully committed to WHUFC unlike the former mentioned puppets
26.) 28 Oct 2024 14:48:44
Good question about how long and how many games is accptable to give someone. Truth is, there is not set number of games. All i know is that 9 games is too early. They say you need to give players a season to adjust to the Prem, why do managers get just 7 games when coming to a new club?
Any manager coming in now becasue fans called for the sack this early will not want to try and play expansive football (which is waht we want right) as they will be ultra cautious to try and not risk being exploited and eventually getting the sack also. Not what we want at all. We can see differnt things are being tried, and this is all a learning process as differnt things will work/fail against differnet opposition.
I also agree with Joyful on the communications aspect, if this is proving to be a problem then it needs addressing. From what i understand, he as already commented on it and i am sure a solution is being looked at.
Back to how much time to give someone; whenever you come into a club (and more so when trying to make big changes) the project is ultimately fluid and you learn and encounter new things as you go. You have to try things, then if thery are not working instantly you may need to stick with it for a few games as it could be players that just need time to adapt. Then if that is not working then you have to make alterations, and 9 league games is nowehre near enough to do this when you also need to factor variables like fitness and form into the equation. J-Lop i believe is still very much in this stage, and has encountered at least three major hurdles while introducing his style that will ultimately delay him getting us playing the way he would have wanted.
1. The midfield do not seem to click and maybe players do not have the attributes capable of playing how he wanted (e.g. pace is an issue at CM it seems), he likely thought they were capable when he joined and this is now being found out. J-Lop needs to adapt therefore, and try and find what CAN work with the players he has. We saw that this weekend. What failed miserably at Chelsea was rightly changed, but what we had changed to clearly did not work vs Man Utd in the first half. Ironically, what failed so badly at Chelsea turned out to be the correct tactic vs Man Utd, as we saw in the 2nd half when Alvarez's position was tweaked and Soucek brought on.
2. Striker. Fulkrugg was clearly brought in becasue the ball does not bounce off him and he can hold up play and bring others in. Striker play is fundamental to progress and achieve a balance, and J-Lop has clearly not been able to utilise Fulkrug, who I hope can at least help. Unfortunately, Micky (no matter how much i love him) does not have this attribute. He gives the ball away a LOT in bad positions as we saw vs Man Utd, and this gives teams the quick counter vs our high line defence.
3. Form of key players. No doubt our front line has stuggled for form and this has put more pressure on our defence which is also changing massively. Importantly, Paqueta has not been himself and again gives the ball away a lot in poor positions still, and this is suicidal when playing the high line with flying fullbacks as we are wide open in these transitions. i'd love to see Paq back playing well, he is simply incredible when on form, but right now i think he cannot be played in CM and maybe he will be better suited more avanced or on the left while the team adjusts and he gets his form back.
I suppose the answer is when the manager appears void of ideas, much like Moyse unfortunately got to.
As for where might we finish this year. Expectations must be realistic, bare in mind we had European football for 3 seasons but only REALLY qualified for it once which was in the 20-21 season. The next year we got lucky that the Confrence league was created the year before and that the PL got 7 EU spots as a CL team won a domestic cup, and the 3rd time we only finished 14th but thankfully won the Conference League the year before. Personally, my EXPECTATION is top half, so 10th, and likely through a better 2nd half of the season than 1st half as this would show progression. But i HOPE we click sooner and end up pushing close to 6th 7th eventually, that would be a good season IMO and our squad has good enough players despite being light up front.
27.) 28 Oct 2024 19:22:56
Hello Whoareya; good to hear from you mate. I’m too thick skinned to let personal insults get to me. Been there, done it and got the tee shirt, so I’ll continue to impart my opinion. Glad you’re back.
28.) 28 Oct 2024 19:47:01
Totally agree with you on FULLKRUG I think people will be shocked when he's back and match fit and up to pace as he's a far better player than people give him credit for he WILL score goals and IF he stayed fit for a whole season he would get 18+ goals maybe close to 25 imo he's decent trust me I've watched a fair bit of him.⚒️⚒️⚒️COYI
29.) 28 Oct 2024 23:12:06
Totally agree mate. My family is German and in Germany I support Werder Bremen. I’ve seen a fair bit of Fullkrüg and can confirm he’s good when he gets the right service. However, we still need another (younger) centre forward with strength and pace because Antonio is finished.
30.) 29 Oct 2024 13:23:27
Who would you like to see West Ham sign Tinlegs? Give us one of your famous recommendations.
31.) 29 Oct 2024 13:39:12
Famous recommendations? If they are so famous, maybe you’d like to remind us all of those I’ve made in the past as I can’t seem to recollect the ones you are referring to specifically?
32.) 29 Oct 2024 16:28:28
So can you give a player you would like to see West Ham sign? You seem to have tried to swerve the question. In answer to your question, no I can’t. You don’t provide specific names or details, just vague generic descriptions as above.
33.) 29 Oct 2024 17:50:02
Sorry, but I’m not going to take the bait at your attempts to belittle my opinions. One, it’s pointless - there are several players I’d like to see in claret and blue. Haaland is an obvious one, but we all know he’s never going to play for us! Secondly, your motive is not only immature, but does not contribute to this discussion thread.
34.) 29 Oct 2024 18:26:57
I’m only asking for you to provide a realistic option in the transfer market, I don’t see why you are getting so defensive.
35.) 29 Oct 2024 22:19:42
Does anyone have an update on Fullkrüg’s injury? The last I heard was that he had gone to Germany for a course of injections.
36.) 30 Oct 2024 07:06:36
This is bizarre behaviour Tinlegs. For someone so vocal of your disdain of our all time PL top goal scorer I cannot fathom why this process of you naming one player you would replace him with in the transfer market is taking so long.
{Ed001's Note - maybe because he is not a professional scout?}
37.) 30 Oct 2024 12:10:53
I don’t think it’s a case of belittling your opinions now. As we all have different opinions about who is good or bad but if you did suggest someone who who turned out to be a wrongen then you would rightly be slaughtered las you are so quick to criticise other’s opinions. I have quite often been wrong with my initial opinions on here but the difference is I can admit that, you seem incapable of it.
38.) 30 Oct 2024 12:44:37
Hammer-D: “I have quite often been wrong with my initial opinions on here but the difference is I can admit that, you seem incapable of it.”
TinLegs: “I will continue to give my opinion, be it right or wrong (none of us are perfect), about a club I love and have supported man and boy for 61 years.“
39.) 30 Oct 2024 19:57:51
FairPlay ?
TinLegs's banter posts with other poster's replies to TinLegs's banter posts
27 Apr 2025 18:50:06
A very interesting perspective on how the club is run by Sullivan and the board at WHU given by Nick Killington on YouTube Claret and Booze, "Lunchtime Live With Nick". Just the first 20 mins of the video, before the phone in. Don't know how right he is, but extremely interesting all the same.
1.) 27 Apr 2025 19:17:38
I watched this Tin very interesting would certainly answer a few questions if true, whatever the case though the club is not being run correctly
18 Apr 2025 11:11:48
Graham Potter's own words:""I wouldn't say we need a major rebuild."
Not sure what to make of this statement.
1.) 18 Apr 2025 12:40:38
It is a difficult one mate. I personally don’t want the wholesale clearance that many on here want because I think it would be really difficult to get decent replacements in and the we could end up having another small squad again.
You yourself have said we do have some decent players which I agree with. So I think some much needed creativity, speed and guile in midfield is needed and a striker and another CB.
Having said all that we have a number of players soon to be out of contract Ings, ant, cress. Cournet and Rodriguez have to go I would add JWP to that list, but don’t think it’s practical . Then we have the players that other teams will come in for Kudus, Paqueta and Alvarez. Hopefully he feels some of the current loaned players would do a good job and maybe some academy players. But if that is the case he should be giving any potential a chance now not wait for pre-season.
I expect ant and cress will be offered extensions
2.) 18 Apr 2025 13:21:36
Every team in the Premier league will strengthen their squads in the forthcoming window, we are 17th for a reason, we are basically, the worst team in the league, barring 3 average championship sides, that’s it! The league table doesn’t lie, SO if WH decide to fiddle at the edges, bringing in 4/5 very average players, we WILL be relegated next season, no question about it, then Sullivan can really count the costs, The value of WH will drop from £1:2 billion to £600m, attendance will drop from 64, 000 to 30, 000 and overall revenues, will drop to less than 45% of where we are at present, altogether far more expensive, than buying half a squad! It’s his club, if he wants London derbys with QPR, carry on with silly talk and silly ideas, and it can happen! BUT. I’m not taken in, Sullivan, is far from Stupid, he knows, what needs to be done, and he will set out to do it, if not he knows the consequences, wether Potter is the right man to lead, that I don’t know, but come next season, we will find out
3.) 18 Apr 2025 14:02:41
Well potter has actually made us worse than we were under moyes and lopetigi, I doubt he's stupid enough to think we don't need a complete overhaul more like he is managing expectations as he knows money will be an issue and quite frankly we aren't a very attractive propersition as we are heading in the wrong direction
4.) 18 Apr 2025 16:19:57
Joyful I don’t think many of us would argue we deserve to be 17th in the division. Are you saying the players we have are 17th worst players in the league, because I would beg to differ and we do have some quality players. It isn’t that simple to say we are 17th so our players all need replacing. Lest we forget the squad of 2003 which were definitely not the 18th worst players, yet we still got relegated. Probably the biggest disaster was appointing Loppy in the first place but as Rob says potter has taken us down further. Conversely Nottingham Forest player for player are not in the top 6 in the league but due to team spirit and tactics that suit the players they have they played to their strengths and are in a decent position in the league.
5.) 18 Apr 2025 17:54:01
For tomorrow I would go with:
Areola
AWB. Todibo. Kilman. Emerson
Bowen. JWP. Soler. Pacqueta
Kudus. Fulkrug
6.) 18 Apr 2025 17:56:20
No of course it’s not just a simple, equation of worst/ best, players etc, it’s clearly the combination of players we have doesn’t work, perhaps the manager hasn’t got it right either, but simply put, as a team, it’s just not good enough, so big change is necessary, if we don’t make the changes needed, and start next season, with more or less the same outfit, we will be relegated, on our showings the last. Few months, it would be difficult to argue otherwise, don’t see, how anybody can think differently,
7.) 18 Apr 2025 18:10:51
Oh dear with Sullivan promoting himself as chief negotiator/ director of football this can only go one way and that is south.
8.) 18 Apr 2025 18:52:42
I don’t see how we can avoid major outgoings and incomings. I think it’s accepted that Rodriguez will leave, as will Ings. Those likely to join him are Todibo, Antonio, Fabianski, Emerson, and Paqueta, with Soucek, Coufal and Kudus attracting interest from other clubs. If that’s the case, they are going to need replacing. Personally, I’d like to see Ward-Prowse go, in addition to Ings, Antonio, Soucek, Coufal and the gang already in the out tray. I hope Todibo, Alvarez, Aguerd, Füllkrug and Kudus stay, but I have my doubts. How this can’t be construed as a major rebuild, I don’t know. Only time will tell, but as I’ve made my position clear, I’m convinced Graham Potter is not the right coach to oversee any rebuild of a squad we want to challenge for European places. Unless he pulls a white rabbit from a top hat, on evidence so far, we will be in the lower half of the Premiership next year, and possibly fighting to avoid the drop. Hope I’m totally wrong.
9.) 18 Apr 2025 18:53:24
The point about managing expectations is a good point. Graham Potter is very good with the media, Ramsdale or Kelleher + Liam Delap would be a solid transfer window for me.
Football clubs need to be built. Even after buying all of those players last summer, I never expected a top half finish because those players need time to gel. I don’t think it’s good for the football club to buy 6, 7, 8+ players every summer.
Regarding the manager, I do understand the point around Potter needing to hit the ground running next season, having had a few months to assess the current squad. However, I also think to keep chopping and changing managers is a one way ticket to relegation. The board installed Potter, back him, if he is your man - give him time to build the club.
10.) 18 Apr 2025 19:21:50
I think Potter needs time to build a team/squad. They’ll be quite a bit of trading this summer with players leaving/arrivals. I think Pacquetta, Kudus and Rodriguez will be moved on to generate income. They’ll be the ones whose contract are coming to an end. Approximately £100m in. Hopefully, 3 or 4 in.
11.) 19 Apr 2025 06:27:46
If you’re talking about player sales to generate funds, not considering savings on wages, my suggested realistic valuations are:
Paqueta £30m - £40m;
Kudus £35m - £45m;
Todibo £20m;
Soucek £20m;
Coufal £5m;
Rodriguez £10m;
Emerson £10m - £15m;
Ward Prowse £5m - £10m;
Alvarez £30m;
Aguerd £25m;
Füllkrug £10m;
Guilherme £15 - £20m.
First, we have to find clubs who actually want these players (not that I want them all to go.) There are several others whose contracts are ending and we can’t expect anything for them other than savings on wages. These figures are of course just my own valuations, but IMO are realistic.
12.) 19 Apr 2025 09:52:31
Maybe I should clarify that in Todibo’s case, I have assumed we have fulfilled our commitment and may look to move him on.
12 Apr 2025 08:36:10
What's the betting GP will start with 3 centre backs, AWB and Emerson as wingbacks, Paqueta, JWP and Soucek in midfield, Bowen up front with no recognised centre forward, and Kudus out wide? I bloody hope not, but somehow he's become so predictable.
I'd like to see a starting XI of
Areola
AWB
Scarles
Kilman
Todibo
Alvarez
Paqueta
Soler
Bowen
Kudus
Füllkrug
but I won't hold my breath. Liverpool are beatable, but it all depends on Potter. We can't sit back and let them come onto us. If GP surrenders the first half, we're in for a drubbing. Fingers crossed it's swashbuckling time!
1.) 12 Apr 2025 14:03:48
That's not bad Tin. AREOLA fills me with dread and Alvarez is a red card waiting to happen but this lineup is about as good as it gets. As long as we have a go and don't just sit back
2.) 12 Apr 2025 15:19:26
Areola just pips it over Fab, and Alvarez is just what we need in a scrap. The alternatives are Soucek, who’s about as useful in midfield as ashtrays on a motorbike, or JWP who is still trying to find a way out of reverse gear. Kilman just edges it over Dino and the same with Scarles over Emerson. Füllkrug definitely should start, but I think he’ll be sacrificed so the duo of Laurel and Hardy can be used in midfield.
3.) 12 Apr 2025 17:12:20
I like the look of the side, more attacking. but just can’t see the change to 442 as we didn’t do that against far lesser sides than Liverpool. Let’s hope there is a bit of enterprise and something like this happens.
4.) 12 Apr 2025 20:13:38
Liverpool who have lost 2 games in the league out of 31 are beatable? Technically everyone in the league is beatable but the probability at anfield is slim based on both teams form this season is slim at best.
5.) 12 Apr 2025 21:34:59
My team for tomorrow is:
Areola
AWB
Emerson
Kilman
Todibo
Cresswell
Bowen
Soucek
JWP
Alvarez
Fulkrug
1-5-3-2
6.) 13 Apr 2025 05:51:20
Brooking is actually David moyes.
7.) 13 Apr 2025 07:50:37
All Premiership sides are beatable, and any team who doesn’t believe that doesn’t deserve to be in the Premier league. History shows that the best sides are vulnerable, usually in the final stretch of the season when things seem settled. We all know the odds, but GP must throw caution to the wind and at least have a go. We are never going to win by fielding three central defenders. It shows a total lack of ideas and ambition, as does playing Soucek and JWP in the same midfield. COYI!
8.) 13 Apr 2025 08:03:48
hammerdave: “Brooking is actually David Moyes.”
????
9.) 13 Apr 2025 11:23:53
Personally, think we’ll be comfortably beaten today. The Salah news will lift the crowd. Reckon 4-0
10.) 13 Apr 2025 12:24:18
Is the Pope catholic? Brooking should be a football pundit - stating the obvious! What this thread is about is what might happen if Potter throws caution to the wind and gets the boys to have a go, but that has obviously gone above some heads. ?
11.) 13 Apr 2025 13:05:03
To be fair, you’ve given up on the new manager already after, what is it, 12 games?
Back to your old habits of moaning everyday. Didn’t you post something at 6AM the other day moaning? You should be called Moanlegs, or MyLegsAreMadeOfTinJustSpendMyLifeMoaning.
12.) 13 Apr 2025 13:12:37
Teams are up.
Surprise, surprise - three centre backs and no centre forward. So predictable. Clueless; bereft of any ideas. Hold onto your seats boys; we’re in for a rough ride.
13.) 13 Apr 2025 13:13:31
Rofl ??? a bit surprised he has reverted back to bowen up top with Kudus, paqueta behind. Soler and Jwp midfield? No fulkrug? Is he not fully fit yet? Some strange choices but again, at least he can say in the summer that they were all given chances to prove themselves!
14.) 13 Apr 2025 13:26:49
I think we will miss Alvarez and Fulgrug and hopefully don’t regret putting macro and JWP in.
Still we play better away from home and against the bigger sides. That is a lot of straws I am clutching at.
15.) 13 Apr 2025 13:50:45
Agreed mate. Five at the back tends to indicate we’ll let them come onto us and try and hit them on the break. Without a recognised centre forward this might prove a problem. Nothing wrong with living in hope though. Fingers and toes crossed, regardless of what they’re made of! ?
16.) 13 Apr 2025 13:54:10
Mavro
17.) 13 Apr 2025 14:00:17
Hmmm some strange choices in the line up but, football is a funny old game. Yes I expect us to get beat 3 or 4 but, u just never know and even if we do it shows Potter more about the character of the players so for me it's a win win.
Let's remember this squad was built by LOP and Moyes so let's judge Potter when he has players he wants to play and they are all fit, not until!
18.) 13 Apr 2025 14:59:19
Mac,
Are you saying Potter doesn’t know how to get a tune out of this pool of players? That’s what it sounds like. Let’s face it, he’s a professional very well paid coach who has had 3 months with this squad. He also had best part of a transfer window and all he brought in was Ferguson on loan. He wouldn’t be very good at his job if he didn’t know the players he was inheriting, or those players he had an idea might fit in. All this nonsense about having to give him time is just that - nonsense. He’s already shown us he can field an attacking side. Sadly, it’s been after half-time. What worries me is I fear he‘s clueless about how to set up a formation to combat good sides from the kick off. If that is seen by some as ‘moaning’, then bloody right it’s moaning. Potter wasn’t my choice in the first place, but it’s time we saw some evidence to justify his vast salary and so called ‘reputation’. So far, I have no idea where this ‘reputation’ came from and I’ve seen little evidence he knows what he’s doing, apart from talking a good job! I hope things change, but I somehow doubt it.
19.) 13 Apr 2025 15:57:40
Right then Tin what you got to say for yourself now? Bound to be something negative as always. We could have Ancelotti (who in my opinion is one of the best managers on the planet) and you'd still not be happy.
Great effort by the boys. Quality is certainly missing and I have no doubts next season will be better than this but get of the managers back and give him a chance
20.) 13 Apr 2025 16:03:07
Moan moan f****n moan, this whinging is getting very boring again fellers and some of you that I had new gained respect for have well and truly fallen into your terrible old habits of using this forum to spout nothing but negativity! The job done in the 1st half was to nullify a very partisan crowd and we did that. 2nd half we were excellent and I had a Liverpool fan mate text me from the ground saying they were finding it horrible as we were battering them! I’ve been
a big critic of Paqueta but I thought he was brilliant today, simply outstanding. If people on here can’t take the positives out of that game today then shame on you!
21.) 13 Apr 2025 16:26:32
Sorry to put the boot in Mac but you I agree with Tin that must make me moany D! But I feel you are giving this guy too much Lea way.
The second half today was an improvement but why didn’t we play that way from the get go.
All that has changed is we are not getting tonked in some games and we have a manager who seems rational and is a nice bloke as opposed to a grouchy nutter.
The football we are playing under him is almost a carbon copy of Moyes. I didn’t think we would be relegated even with loopy-Loppy in charge and it became more evident as the season has progressed because the bottom 3 are SOOOO poor, not because we were any good.
We spent the first half of the season moaning about the manager (rightly so) and now seem to have spent the second half of the season moaning about the players, apparently our poor results are now, nothing to do with the manager! Well with that same group of players and the addition of Ferguson we now have a more organised side that is in 18th position as opposed to 14th when he took over, with hardly any attacking style or play. No manager has ever had this luxury to have roughly 10 or so games where he can experiment with a more swashbuckling style even if the personnel are not all there we can at least see if this guy has it in him to try to play on the front foot, which I don’t believe he has. I would rather see us lose 4 or 5 nil and at least give it a go than go down the way we are now, losing by one or two.
22.) 13 Apr 2025 17:10:56
Keep getting my numbers mixed up 17th not 18th
23.) 13 Apr 2025 17:19:24
So Hammer-D you are actually saying you’d prefer the Lopetegui period when we were being beaten 5 nil and 6 nil than the Potter era? This is the 3rd time we have played Liverpool this season and yes they were better earlier in the season but we conceded 10 goals in the first 2 games ….
All new managers need time to bed in and have a chance at picking their own players. Look at Arteta, he was agonisingly close to getting sacked then turned things around. Don’t forget Potter did not inherit a happy team and in his first game lost both Summerville and Fullkrug (his only genuine CF) . The players at the time were all low and confused because of the idiot who had been in charge for the last 6 months. Potters first job was to raise positivity amongst the players and then stop the defence leaking 2-3 goals every game. To do that something had to give and that our goal scoring. Our expected goals per game has gone down but so has our expected goals conceded.
All I say is that we judge Potter in October after he’s had a say in player purchases/sales and has no excuses. If he fails I for one will not have a problem saying you guys were right
24.) 14 Apr 2025 06:31:42
Hi Dabber no I am not suggesting for one moment that Loppy was better than Potter. But do feel it is unfair that Potter seems blameless having taken us down a further 4 places in the league. I’m not a stats man but they are important. It would be interesting to see how many attacks, attempts on goal we have had since he took over, I am pretty sure it would be the lowest in the league compared to the other managers.
For sure you are right that the team spirit is far better and the players look happier. I have said that we are more organised under him. But I do feel these things mask his negative tactics. It is what Brighton and Chelsea fans have said about him. With nothing to play for, wouldn’t it have been good to see us play the way we addressed the game in the second half in the first half yesterday .We aren’t going down and not going to jeopardise any European place.
You asked Tin what was period he liked last at West Ham. For me the last season at Upton Park was great. It was a bit of a one-off as Bilic didn’t continue in the same way. Take away the emotion of leaving the old place. It was a one off where virtually all new signings came off and the football was fun and exciting and we took many a big scalp including Liverpool. I didn’t actually mind Moyes early period of his second stint during the covid era, I know Tin wouldn’t agree with that. But he is totally entitled to his opinions and to a degree it turned out he was right Moyes shortly turned into a complete bore fest.
Potter seems a nice guy but he needs to be held to account more than he is.
I hope he does get some of his players in who can transform our play and I really hope he can change his over cautious approach, I’m just not holding my breath…….
25.) 14 Apr 2025 18:32:21
Well said Hammer-D. Potter’s record at Brighton is way overrated. His sides had difficulties scoring goals. He was found out very quickly at Chelsea where the total goals scored plummeted. At WHU we now have the worst record of shots taken and shots on target in the Premier league under Potter. And guess what? We’ve dropped from 13th to 17th under Potter. We’ve been overtaken by Spurs, Man Utd and now Wolves. Potter spent most of the January transfer window trying to get Ferguson in on loan, and now never plays him. What makes you think this bloke is going to make things any better once Sullivan has spent the summer trying to save a few quid like Boycie in Only Fools and Horses? I think we’ll be in a relegation battle with Potter next season. Nothing would make me happier than to be wrong, but I’m not going to hold my breath. ‘Bonjour’ as Del would say! ?
12 Apr 2025 06:00:35
Talksport, Darren Bent on Michail Antonio:
"He's 35 years old now, at some point West Ham are going to have to start looking beyond Michail Antonio.
"I know he's been so important for so long, but as I said, he's 35 years old, we don't know what state he's going to come back after this leg injury. It's time for the next one to come about."
Just how much do these former players get paid for stating the obvious? Anyone with a brain knows the situation with strikers and Antonio at WHU, but Bent makes it appear this is his scoop! I realise footballers have to find a new career post-playing days, but the advent of pundits and "experts" treat football fans as idiots, unable to think for themselves. Morons.
1.) 12 Apr 2025 08:58:25
Woke up on the wrong side of the bed again it seems.
2.) 12 Apr 2025 09:06:41
Moron indeed, do these people actually get paid for this rubbish, further WH fans are getting misleading information from their ITKS, WH are NOT in ‘“ box seat “. For Walker Peters, Spurs are, and at present have offered much better terms, then, we move to, Dibling, WH are way behind, Spurs and Man U, and so far have not increased original offer, there’s more, another WH ITK is claiming, a scoop on Samu from Porto, on 11 th April, it was posted here on the 4th, and I’m no ITK, and hearing it from my source a week before! Do these people get money for this?
3.) 12 Apr 2025 14:08:29
Agreed. While these so-called “experts” grab the headlines with their obvious ‘after the event’ statements, other younger players make declarations which tend to fly under the ‘jobs for the boys’ media radar. For example, the young and patient Guilherme recently stated, “We need to show resilience and be ready to suffer together.” How refreshing that a young player who has not been given opportunities to show what he is capable of when played in his correct position, nevertheless displays a grit and loyalty to this club. Well said young man.
06 Apr 2025 23:29:00
According to one source, because the early season ticket renewals are abysmal, the board are getting nervous about committing a large sum of money for a summer rebuild directed by Potter. Apparently they are monitoring the style of play for entertainment value and will evaluate Potter at seasons end. From a pressure free season, the manager is now under pressure. Maybe that's a good thing.
1.) 07 Apr 2025 05:30:53
It's not a good thing it's ridiculous. At least give him chance to get his own players playing for him and not this shower of rubbish. If true it's a joke
2.) 07 Apr 2025 08:53:53
It’s not ridiculous. I only say it might be a good thing because it’s normally accepted that people perform better when under a bit of pressure.
Don’t shoot the messenger! Note that Nick on Claret and Booze is reporting this, from a source close to the board allegedly.
3.) 07 Apr 2025 16:46:02
I think that would be good IF true. I like C&B but feel Nic may possibly put things on the site that they want to happen and he hopes daddy or sonny Sullivan watches and may actually run with the idea.
Obviously Potter would have a say on incoming players but has worked mainly with Directors of Football in the past. He must think the current players are decent because he didn’t get rid of any in January and only brought in Ferguson.
4.) 07 Apr 2025 16:51:01
Isn’t there a waiting list for season tickets therefore regardless of how many renew their seats wouldn’t they just be sold to the people waiting on the list? It does feel to me that C&H are also unhappy with Potter’s start and are scare mongering or at least rabble rousing!
5.) 07 Apr 2025 18:56:48
Dabber,
I might be wrong, but a waiting list for season ticket holders might be a thing of the past. I don’t know, but I believe current holders get first option to renew and then the remainder go on general sale or are offered to applicants. Maybe someone with better current knowledge will know? I remember having to wait for several seasons when I was young, but that’s more than a few years ago!
I think Nick is pretty genuine, even though I don’t always agree with him, but of course it all depends on the validity of his info.
Tin.
6.) 07 Apr 2025 20:45:00
I could be wrong dabbler but I don’t think there is a waiting list at the moment and WH along with a lot of other clubs like Chelsea are focusing more on day trippers as they can make significantly more money selling to tourists than us mere mortals. Two guys from Hampshire were season ticket holders and stood next to me until this season. Since they have given their seat up I have never seen the same person in that seat. One of my mates asked before last years allocation was complete if he could move his seat to next to me as I knew they were giving their tickets up, and they (WHU) refused saying those seats were already taken by ST holders which we think was crap. At Chelsea a mate told me when a ST becomes available they tend to hold those tickets and offer to tourists as a package for about £500.
I don’t have no beef with the tourists as when I was in Buenos Aires I managed to go and see Bocca Juniors at the Bombarena behind the goal with the home fans which was great. But it does water down the natural passion of the home support. And many don’t like it as it feels like a form of non violent local cleansing
7.) 08 Apr 2025 06:18:14
Sorry Tin, just realised I have just copied most of what you said in your first sentence. Should have gone to spec savers ?
8.) 08 Apr 2025 09:27:00
Morning Tin, Hammer
To be honest I don’t know how season tickets work these days so your both likely right. The issue over funds being available based on ticket season sales though is like it or not football clubs are business and books need to balance or you fall foul of FFP. Its also a style over substance issue. Most fans want to pay their hard earned money to watch style (unless you support Stoke or Birmingham) in the form of good attacking football where the players try hard and hopefully the result goes your way as a home supporter. From a club owners point of view (and i'm trying not to defend Sullivan as I dislike the man as much as the next person) it’s all about getting results and staying at the highest level. Potter historically has been seen as a manager that gets a decent tune out of what he has to work with until he had everything at Chelsea and failed. I certainly think we’ll see more opportunity for the academy players and some unknown cheaper players from abroad. I don’t necessarily see us signing anybody over £40m again for a while. Its a balancing act and this is why I have hope that Potter is the right man for us and sincerely hope he succeeds. One things for sure, he has to scrap that midfield and start again to the man as imo Soler, JWP, Paqueta, Alvarez, Souchek and Rodrigues are all far too inconsistent.
9.) 08 Apr 2025 13:36:01
With regard to your list of midfielders, inconsistency occurs when players are played out of position or tinkered with too much. Soler can be a class act if regularly left to do a job. JWP is just not good enough for the Premiership. So much for this so called set piece specialist! He’s the back pass king. Paqueta has shown flashes of brilliance and will be a consistently good player again when all this betting nonsense is settled. Alvarez is hot headed, but is one of our best midfielders. Soucek is a loose cannon, running around to no avail and popping up every now and then to score because he throws himself into situations. Useless as a midfielder. Rodriguez is just not suited to Premiership football and he knows it, so wants out. You’ve forgotten Irving. Another Prem sub-standard player.
10.) 08 Apr 2025 14:59:41
Tin,
Who’s Irving?! ?
We’re going to have to agree to disagree about Paqueta as I know you like him. For me he tries to be too flash, gives away the ball too many times and, for me his worse crime, doesn’t try hard enough to win the ball back when he loses it. JWP is certainly no Poyet when it comes to free kicks but neither is Paqueta when it comes down to all round skills and quality. Of the 7 Soler is the only one I would be happy to keep, the rest of them need to be moved on …. Good debate tough mate
11.) 08 Apr 2025 15:52:05
I agree Dabber about the midfield being the main problem and being inconsistent and that has a major impact on the defence. I personally don’t think it actually needs them all to go, because if you get a couple of speedy creative players in there that will change the existing personnel. I agree with Tinny regarding Alvarez and JWP and Soucek but he has scored a lot of crucial goals this season and would be a fair squad player.
It’s very easy to be influenced by things we have just read and this morning I was reading about how highly Bristol and Portsmouth fans regard Earthy and Potts, so they may be a possible option without spending cash. Personally I think Soler is a decent player but his wages may be an issue. Whilst it may be justified that all the players listed in the original post deserve to go, it is unrealistic that, that will happen. And even if it did, it is highly unlikely that it would be a success.
12.) 08 Apr 2025 19:30:12
Hammer, good points well raised. So if we had to keep 3 of the 7 who would you keep and who goes? For me Paqueta and Alvarez would generate cash so I’d sell those 2. Irving is a bit pointless so I’d ship him out too. Souchek I’d keep for the squad. Soler, big wages and 17m transfer fee erm sorry I just think there’s better out there. That means keeping JWP and oh my god Rodrigues … are you sure we can’t get rid of the lot? And therein lies our problem ??♂️
13.) 08 Apr 2025 19:52:15
Nope Rodriguez is leaving with 3 clubs chasing his signature. MOYES will come for Soucek and Coufal (good riddance), Dortmund want Alvarez, Paqueta can go back to Brazil where he belongs, Emerson, tobido, Cresswell and mavropanos will go. Both keepers will go and about time to. Then we have Cornet, Ings and JWP who will go. Bowen might go if Liverpool bid £75m+. Kudus will go if we get the right bid so who does that leave lol oh yeah Ferguson will go bsck to Brighton
14.) 08 Apr 2025 19:56:31
No question the best three out of these are Paqueta, Soler and Alvarez. The worst are JWP, Soucek and Rodriguez. Irving is a squad player, nothing more.
Paqueta is on his dancers, no matter what the outcome of the FA hearing. Rodriguez will definitely go. Soucek is awful as a midfielder and I hope Moyes comes in for him. JWP is a training cone, but Potter likes plastic. Soler is probably unhappy, so he’ll be on his toes. Alvarez feels he’s been badly treated. For any player to go, it takes another club to want him. Watch this space.
15.) 08 Apr 2025 20:26:10
The above is my response to Dabber.
As for Mac’s points, I can’t see so many going at once. Bowen’s the only worrying one. He’s our best player, but if Liverpool desperately want him we’ll have a fight on our hands. Not that bothered about Kudus. He can go if we get a decent offer. I hope Füllkrug stays.
16.) 08 Apr 2025 21:42:10
Of those players you mention dabber, I would personally keep Alvarez possibly Soler and Irving, all have their problems. A lot depends on Paqueta, his case and if found not guilty what sort of offers come in for him. If they are large then take the money ditto for kudus. Paqueta on his day is in a different league to most of our squad. Sadly we haven’t seen many of those days this season. If we can get good money for those 2 then we may possibly be in a position to offer more for a few upgrades. Hopefully the loanees will return and be a success but definitely no guarantees there. But the elephant in the room is our constant millstone Sullivan. He will have potter buying players that are linked to his preferred agents, who are generally crap.
Mac I just can’t see that amount of players going even though some are certainties. After what I saw Saturday I too would like Fulkrug to stay.
24 Apr 2025 11:09:55
IMO, we keep getting our manager wrong because Sullivan doesn’t go for the best man for the job. His blanket refusal to pay another club compensation results in a reduced pool from which to choose. Only unemployed managers are considered. They are unemployed for a reason. Sullivan should be prepared to use some of the transfer funds to pay off another club. Yes, that costs a few million, but if we get the best man, it would save money in the long run. Personally, I think Thomas Frank would be a perfect fit for West Ham. Or maybe Marco Silva? Just a couple of names who I think would make all the difference.
24 Apr 2025 04:58:23
Dabber, if the guy whose tactics dictate how we play is clueless, it doesn’t matter who you bring in. Poor tactics result in poor performances, result in poor results, result in relegation. And good players do not want to play for a club in decline where the current staff are obviously unhappy. This is already happening. The manager role is pivotal.
23 Apr 2025 22:51:34
Nothing surprising there then.
19 Apr 2025 10:17:45
Sentimentality doesn’t come cheap. He was finished long before the accident. Another contract is delaying the inevitable. He should be let go with thanks for his services in the past.
10 Apr 2025 14:20:11
Delap would be my choice. Proven ability in the Premiership. I doubt we’ll get him though with Sullivan directing the transfer and clubs with better offers.
27 Apr 2025 20:03:26
Are you on drugs Mac? ?
Sell Bowen before getting shot of a coach who is plainly out of his depth? I’ve heard it all now! Talk about desperation.
27 Apr 2025 15:23:09
Re above: Obviously, I meant “…. you can’t tell me that everyone on here would NOT be clamouring for Potter to go.”
27 Apr 2025 15:00:38
In order to be fair as possible, I delayed watching Potter’s post-match press conference until today. If that is not a broken man, I don’t know what is. He used the excuse of internal anger and frustration to avoid answering legitimate questions. He even referred one point to whoever was beside him. It doesn’t take a genius to recognise that he is way out of his depth and now realises the job in front of him is too big for him to handle. All the misguided hype over his Brighton record is now coming home to roost. He’s clueless. It’s no good shifting the blame onto the players. This has been going on for a few weeks, and if the players aren’t playing well, whose job is it to put that right? The tea lady? It’s Potter’s responsibility and he clearly can’t handle it. He’s an EFL Championship coach in a Premiership job and giving him time will not change that. He certainly should not be in charge of the rebuild this club desperately needs. If Sullivan had got his way and Potter was given a suck it and see 6 month contract, on his current form at WHU, you can’t tell me that everyone on here would be clamouring for Potter to go. Think about it. If not, you’d be asking for a new contract for a bloke whose record is appalling! If he stays, he’ll be gone by Christmas, if not before.
27 Apr 2025 12:56:29
Unless he’s crap of course! ?
27 Apr 2025 09:06:38
I find it incredible that people are making excuses and shifting the blame to defend Potter’s obvious lack of ability. Enough said.