30 Jul 2023 23:36:51
The frustration is understandable but ppl, you should calm down! Here's why:

£105m for Rice is not the limit for our squad budget for this window. You need to decouple income from expenditure. We can spend more than that if need be. Other clubs may be buying players left right and center, but they are going deep into debt to do it. Even without the Rice money there'd be a transfer budget this summer.

Sullivan and Moysey are no spring chickens. Neither got where they are in this business by being foolhardy. In fact, they have learned from being burned by certain purchases in the last couple of years (Haller, Vlasic, Scamacca, Kehrer etc) that never settled. so now they want to build a core of proven Prem players with a low risk factor. That's why Rice went for the big bucks. he's played almost every minute for WH and England, and rarely has a bad game. Plus he's got room to improve. ie low risk, high reward.

Sullivan knows it's good negotiating tactics to have a viable alternative in each position--hence Gallagher/Ward Prowse, Alvarez/Palhinha. He would rather wait and haggle, than panic and overpay.

Once the core backbone is in place WH can gamble on some wild cards such as the type Tim Steidten has sniffed out.

Sullivan may also be hedging because he anticipates a big offer from Ineos or Saudi for the whole lot! Cash in hand is valued over expensive, unproven new talent.

So I'm just saying, it's safe to assume all these conversations are ongoing 24/7 at HQ, but we fans should cut the current management some slack and lower our blood pressure. Look out for big movement before the end of the transfer window.

1.) 31 Jul 2023
31 jul 2023 08:00:42
what? sorry bubbles, i don't agree. firstly, whilst it makes sense to try and build a core of players with premier league experience, it doesn;t make sense from a recruitment point of view. moyes wants premier league players because he has one year keft on his contract, so he is trying to play the safe game to save his neck. look at last summer and how long it took him to start to bed players in. this year, despite conference league win, he knows his neck is on the line so he is playing it safe. keep in mind that throughout moyes career, he has always had control of transfers (dithering dave is well renowned for not being able to make his mind up) .

on the other hand, tim steidten was brought to quite rightly follow the brighton model which sullivan loves (scout out of the market and find talent, buy it for virtually nothing and sell of for massive profits) . just look at mitoma £2.5m, mccallister £6.9m, moises caicedo for £4.5m and look how much they are making on those players. this is the way the bopard want to go.

mark noble and tim steidten want youssof fofana from monaco, a 24 year old french international already. they identified ao tanaka, one of the stars of the japan team in the world cup and i could keep going, but moyes isn't sure.

we have two sides looking at different players with different priorities. moyes priority quite rightly is to save his neck, tim steidten is doing his job by uncovering young talent for the future.

the transfer problem being that moyes has shown in the past that if the board bring in players he doesn;t want or like, he either won't play them or he plays out of position (see downes, benrahma for instance) .

the board therefore are between a rock and a hard place. do they back the manager who again, i believe, only has, tops, 12 months. if we have a bad start, and we will with this squad of 20 players, he will be gone by end of sep.

also consider why after winning our first silverware for 43 years, why are players wanting out? rice and lanzini gone. fornals high on betis radar. scamacca will not play another game for us. cresswell is pleading to leave. antonio has played about 12 mins pre season. ings is a shadow of the player he was and a championship player at best, so we don't have a striker.

something has to give. not just to get players, not for moyes, not for steidten and certainly not for sullivan, brady or krezinsky. things have to change and change quick for us, the fans, because we are massive and deserve our club to be run properly as a thriving business. not by some people who think they are trading at an east end fruit market and haggling with every deal.

they need to make a decision and stick by it. stop the low ball bidding, get the bloody transfers done and players in quicker. i get haggling, but when a club wants £45 and we bid £17, well that just ridiculous.

if moyes and steidten and the board don't see eye to eye, things have to change and change now.

waiting until 01st sep to get business done at the last minute? by that time we could already be 12 points adrift at the bottom with our first 4 games bournemouth away, chelsea home, brighton away, luton away. and then our first game after 01st sep is man city!

2.) 31 Jul 2023
31 Jul 2023 08:32:34
What a crock of rubbish season kicks of in just over a week
As fans were supposed to be looking forward to the start of the season
Anyone who is are delusional as you are with that comment

3.) 31 Jul 2023
31 Jul 2023 10:00:17
Absolutely agree Hamm3r5. We should at least for the start of the new season, have our CORE players settled and bedded in. The season is 11 days away. We;ve had all summer and done nothing, but its ok, don;t panic, we have until 01st Sep by which time we will be in trouble already. Does MOYES strike youas the manager who can turn things around in the league and GOD HELP US, we also have EUROPA LEAGUE to think about! We are that creek without a paddle

4.) 31 Jul 2023
31 Jul 2023 10:20:15
BUBBLES? what a load of rubbish. Teams like to make a good early start to the campaign. It brings confidence, boosts morale and sets teams up for a good season. Teams with poor starts historically struggle and those that don't strengthen properly get relegated, no ifs or buts.

5.) 31 Jul 2023
31 Jul 2023 11:11:11
I'm sorry, I totally disagree. There should've been a plan put in place. The whole club is a joke. We're a few weeks from the start and we look awful.

6.) 31 Jul 2023
31 Jul 2023 11:23:58
Provide some evidence then Oshee. You claim your statement is covered by historical trends and accurate statistical data.

7.) 31 Jul 2023
31 Jul 2023 13:16:43
I think there are solid points from Bubble and Daisy. No-one cannot say we have not spent, yet those buys have flopped generally, therefore if you are the owner you would be careful in having your fingers burnt yet again. Yet, our squad is stretched thin. We need a forward, left back and midfielders. I understand Moyse wanting players who can hit the ground running - yet these cost money. So, we may need to seek cheaper replacements. It's a real conundrum for all. Therefore, I think both Bubble and Daisy have very valid points.

8.) 31 Jul 2023
31 Jul 2023 13:36:02
ah yeah, MIKESIRON is here. Just remind us all, you were one of those who thought MOYES was the MESSIAH when the world around you was telling you we had real problems with him in charge. If I remember rightly, Us OLD ARMCHAIR fans have no clue cause we have never seen a West Ham game so how can we have an opinion that matters?

9.) 31 Jul 2023
31 Jul 2023 13:40:15
Lets see how ya feel at Christmas when our season will effectively be over cause we won't last long in the Europa League with possibly the smallest and oldest squad in the premier league. Look at what happened to LEICESTER. They won the league and then they had middle of the road records finishing 12th, 9th, 9th, 5th, 5th and 8th. They spent next to nothing last summer and they finished 18th.

10.) 31 Jul 2023
31 Jul 2023 19:10:52
People are right to voice their frustrations as something needs to change things are clearly not right. I feel like you have to do some kind of mental gymnastics to convince yourself otherwise at the moment and that this is all part of some plan. Their is clearly division and well placed sources have suggested exactly that.

I think most of know there has to be some sort of balance when it comes to transfers, Prem proven is good but also usually expensive much better value abroad but also more risk that's why we have brought in steidten to mitigate that risk.

It doesn't seem like Moyes is willing to compromise at all on his targets and will happily blow our transfer budget on older players.

Also waiting late on in the window to do business can easily backfire, clubs will know we are desperate and can easily stick on an extra 10-20m on what you could have got them for. Same happened with Antony to man u last summer.

11.) 31 Jul 2023
31 Jul 2023 21:09:33
When the fans in the stadium decide the manager needs to go, the manager goes. On that logic those within the stadium have more sway than a has been on a website.

I never said Moyes was a messiah. I believe the delivery of a trophy, 3 seasons of European football, twice staving off relegation and improving the squad significantly means he should be kept on. I also get very tired off the constant berating of the manager. We know your thoughts, why do we need to re post everyday the same message? The idea that next season we will have a worse record than Derby is just delusional, it’s completely without fact or logic. That isn’t to say I don’t understand that if we are in the bottom 3 after ten games he will be under pressure.

As I have said before, I consider myself and the other thousands that go home and away, of which their support is nothing short of superb, a first class and genuine follower of West Ham United. Conference League or Conference North I will be there. I back the team and wish you lot would do the same. If you were at the games you would understand what I am trying to convey but you won’t have any idea because you are in the armchair.

The majority on this particular website isn’t the majority elsewhere.

12.) 01 Aug 2023
01 Aug 2023 00:04:22
What absolute nonsense.again.

13.) 01 Aug 2023
01 Aug 2023 03:45:47
Tim - ah but he's had a meat pie up at Hartlepools United, got the book and seen the t shirt. I'm 61 myself so have I! Lol.

14.) 01 Aug 2023
01 Aug 2023 07:41:17
And I'm 62 Spike lol and like many of us on here, we have been there in the rain and the snow, week in week out when we didn't have seats. I remember watching CLYDE Best and POP Robson, soaked to the skin, standing shaking with cold lol cheering the boys on.

15.) 01 Aug 2023
01 Aug 2023 08:37:54
And my experience goes back to the likes of Budgie Byrne and Ronnie Boyce, but what do we know? We’re just armchair supporters according to Mike.

16.) 01 Aug 2023
01 Aug 2023 14:30:53
Exactly TIN, so I think we have more than earned the right to express our unbiased views on here

17.) 01 Aug 2023
01 Aug 2023 15:07:19
Tin yes I was just striking back at the bigoted loon! Lol

18.) 01 Aug 2023
01 Aug 2023 17:42:51
Rofl you armchair fans you lmao never been to a game in ya life. Not like Mike who's been going for at least 20 years lfhh

19.) 01 Aug 2023
01 Aug 2023 22:05:38
When I went it was a major adventure; luckily a buddy went along and we spent an awful lot to help drive the economy that day. Even though both on benefits.