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16 Oct 2018 21:35:56
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14 Oct 2018 14:25:59
WH have just contacted Burnley to ask the condition of Tom Heaton GK after his injury and to his availability in January or at seasons end. IRONMIKE.

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14 Oct 2018 15:39:00
He would be good competition for Fabianski.

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14 Oct 2018 21:56:39
If true then I wish adrian all the best back at home with his family.

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15 Oct 2018 11:17:31
Here here Jason feel that Adrian has been a great signing for us and has been a bit of a scapegoat

Only last week it was reported other clubs are interested in Nathan Trott so is it time to give him a go in the first team squad.

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15 Oct 2018 12:57:51
Rumours we are after Jamaican striker/ winger Alex Marshall any truth Mike. COYI.

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15 Oct 2018 13:05:33
Marshall I believe has some kind of agreement with Spurs, how watertight that is I can’t say but the player is aware of interest from othe4 clubs, but he’s a raw talent. IRONMIKE.

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15 Oct 2018 15:02:16
Re enquiry for Heaton, just hope he’s not now injury prone we don’t need more on the books! Looks like there’s an agreement for Adrian to go, agree with other lads on him, thanks for being a very patient Keeper, be sorry to see you go but you deserve first team football elsewhere, hope you find it in sunny Spain👍.

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09 Oct 2018 16:40:17
Sorry I forgot to add the main catalyst for the new WH stance was and still is Andy Carroll who has been on full wages and kicks a ball occasionally, so they started this season with Willshere who is currently receiving whilst injured just about 50% of his 90k weekly wage IRONMIKE.

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09 Oct 2018 12:57:59
Hi fellas, I wanted to explain if I can the approach WH are taking to salaries, Whilst the idea is to build up a proper squad, not just numbers but the quality required, the downside is of course the huge amount of wages to be paid out,
Not a new idea in itself, but WH have come up with the theory that eleven of the squad play with three subs allowed, so at any one time you will have perhaps 14 players not taking part, they will only receive in NEW contracts ONLY a. BASIC wage at a much reduced figure with perhaps a third to a half added for appearance either playing or as a sub, it starts getting a bit complicated after that with so many appearances bringing further add ons etc, it's seen as as a clever ploy by WH to cut costs, BUT if other clubs don't adopt this system. WH could find themselves out of the market come transfer window time, there are apparently a couple of other clubs that have already adopted this system. Whilst it's fully understandable from a purely financial Base it remains to be seen as to what effects this brings IRONMIKE.

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09 Oct 2018 15:12:55
Hi Mike, I've read Rice's contract offer is for £21k a week basic plus £20k for every start, so basically it will be £41k as he will be a starter, if he doesn't start it will be an extra £10k for coming off the bench or an extra £5k for being an unused sub, but like I said it's only what I've read?

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09 Oct 2018 16:34:15
It’s not quite correct BUT I think you have the feeling now of what WH want all there new contracts to look like it could prove very difficult to enforce this. IRONMIKE.

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10 Oct 2018 18:42:05
well we´ll never become a big club like that as i´m sure the top teams will not change their approach to player payments! . we could be left in the wind if we adopt that strategy or at best we´ll stay a mediocre mid to bottom half team at best . maybe that's what the board want . who knows!

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07 Oct 2018 12:22:04
WH trying to hijack Arsenal's move for Almiron in touch with Atalanta yesterday. IRONMIKE.

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08 Oct 2018 18:56:09
Hi mike was the situation with rice and this contract, sky sports saying the board have offered him one final contract. Is this true? Any news please 👍🏻.

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09 Oct 2018 10:24:42
Another final offer, followed by another final offer, the money .? well it’s creeping up, at the moment time is on the boards side, why they are messing about like this I can’t say no body agrees with these tactics , the player has proved himself beyond any doubts, as time drifts away the player may get his head turned by another offer, there’s nothing happened in that direction as yet, , we shall have to wait and see. IRONMIKE.

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09 Oct 2018 12:43:37
Thanks Mike as always, hope they tie him down, he’s too good to lose, that is a fact. COYI.

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09 Oct 2018 13:52:57
You can now see what WH are up to in the post above, problem is most players want a flat wage with bonuses seen as an extra if possible not as part of their salaries, this has a long way to travel, as most of the present staff are on older contracts, WH could make this work however by raising both the New flat and extra a bit, so the chosen players would actually earn a bit more and this would create extra competition for places, whillst non players and the injured get smaller flat wage IRONMIKE.

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09 Oct 2018 15:20:22
If that happened what's the betting Carroll would be injury free. 😂.

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09 Oct 2018 16:58:00
Although there is an option on his contract, I can’t see WH taking this up under present terms IF and when he plays which is looking like spurs and Burnley firstly as a sub and somehow becomes a latter day hero he could be offered a new two year deal at a reduced salary with a contract similar to Willshere, so if he doesn’t appear neither will half his wages IRONMIKE.

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10 Oct 2018 09:43:38
I’m not sure if this will take off who are the clubs who have adopted this structure mike.

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10 Oct 2018 10:14:04
Newcastle And Cardiff apparently, My own view it’s fully understandable from a financial point of view, and it’s used in Europe, Going to be difficult to make it stick, particularly on contract renewals. IRONMIKE.

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12 Oct 2018 13:07:52
Exactly what I thought but if ever a club needs these structures it's us mike.

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05 Oct 2018 22:51:03
I would start cresswell over masuaku in future and play perez instead of yarmolenko. A good box to box cm needed in January desperately. Get Antonio out.

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06 Oct 2018 14:29:07
I have previously posted some support for Yarmelenko, it’s still early days but he should be putting in effort for a Premiership and International player! Perez yes maybe give him a start, however in the little he has been involved, I have seen him do next to nothing? Antonio I have also posted my support for, more based possibly on past performances, but he is very Championship ish now, if an offer comes in January, providing satisfactory, let him go! Think we should give Diangana a start on the wing? ⚒⚒⚒⚒.

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06 Oct 2018 18:07:45
Antonio is dreadful. I'd be tempted to drop yarmolenko and play diangana if performances don't pick up. Matsuaku can't defend to save his life and cresswell ain't much better and with zabaletta planning to go to Italy I'd suggest we concentrate on full backs in the next window.

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06 Oct 2018 21:29:47
Hi Phil but have you ever seen a premiership player so slow over the first 5 yards as YARMALENKO it’s like he’s running in quicksand he was very quick a couple of seasons ago he was known as a pacey winger he’s only 28 what’s happened but ANTONIO isn’t fit enough or good enough for the first team and I know NOBLE had a good game against UTD but name me a player that’s not ina win against UTD whenWILSHIRE OR LANZINI are fit he’s got to play 2 holding miss in RICE AND OBIANG with LANZINI or WILSHIRE in an attacking mid role IMO . COYI.

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07 Oct 2018 15:20:30
Yarmalenko's workrate isn't great treking back, but he takes players on and has goals in him, I think he's worth his place. But like philmac states Pellegrini will be looking to bringing in a couple of quality full backs . Fredericks has what it takes going forward but positional play, like Masuaku and Cresswell, not the best. Ideally, would like to see a new midfield but don't think that will happen any time soon.

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01 Oct 2018 08:45:30
Well Well Well, it looks MP has finally got his system right and the players to carry out his plan. I was as many on his back and thought it inevitable the writing was on the wall for him and his staff, perhaps DS can use the compo money put aside for MP and his staff and pay Rice what he is worth.

I thought Fabinski was brilliant, he looked safe and assured, as was most of the players.

Have we employed a surgeon does any one know?, It looks like Zabba and Nobbs have both had leg transplants there were brilliant Rice is getting better and better and Arnie was superb leading the line.

A personal apology from my end to MP as I honestly thought he had lost the plot, congrats to those on here that did say give him time and stuck to their guns.

We now look like we have a system and we ARE looking good, i'm not getting carried away but this season maybe we can use to bed in with this new system, it will confirm to MP what players he can move on and more excitedly what new players to bring in to suit his style. could this be at last the move forward we were promised?

Before anyone shoots me down, i'm not getting carried away after 3 brilliant results, but I can see a style of how he wants to play for the future and it looks exciting. long may it continue.

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01 Oct 2018 10:54:57
Well said Warrington. I voiced my concerns a while back on this
Yay - We're brilliant, great appointment, great signings - excited
Then overnight
Rubbish - Manager is past it, terrible signings, sack everyone, usual Hammers doom and gloom again
Yeah of course I was worried after first few games, but I did really hope that it was really just a matter of time to settle down, find a system, lots of new signings from abroad etc.
Yeah as a Hammers fan I'm used to false dawns and lack of ambition but also I have patience. Not got excited much since 1986, so I'm pretty easily satisfied.

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01 Oct 2018 13:47:55
Question of course now is where does Wilshire fit in after his injury?

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01 Oct 2018 14:26:58
I have to agree with you all, future looking exciting however my worry now is that we have had a few more long term injuries so look pretty exposed if the likes of Rice, Obiang, Noble get injured, any suggestions who you think would replace those three if they get injured.

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01 Oct 2018 17:54:03
I think Obiang and Noble doing so well infront of Dec is a blessing for us in terms of Jack. Firstly, we need more then two players who can play in those 2 CM positions to have a good season. Secondly, MP seems to have settled for a NATURAL DM in a 3 man midfield, which is perfect for JW to flourish, as it has done for Noble and Obiang's games. Thirdly, he has genuine competition for his place now so he needs to motivate himself to get back in and then keep his place.
Im interested to see where Snodgrass plays in the future. Seems the wing is not quite right (pace? ), and we have some good yougsters there. Maybe a more central role where is effort (great vs UTD) and passing is well suited.
My worry is Sanchez injury, we could be screwed if Dec gets injured. Who else plays there? Zaba? Already proved Noble and Obiang cannot do it.
This 11 is looking good, but the punch comes when we get injuries. I want Lanzini back! Word goes out to Antonio, think he has been better as a CF than on the wing, he is physically a handful there and was lucky not to have 2 vs Chelsea.

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02 Oct 2018 08:04:09
Its all about a squad Nickinho, its inevitable that injuries will occur and missed games through yellow cards accumulation but as I mentioned above MP seems to have a certain way of playing as in a system and style,

You could even see that about the way the fringe players played against Macclesfield, ( i'm not talking about the result or how low MACCS are i'm talking about a tactical system on how the players were playing) so he must be involving all players on the training pitch and drilling this system in

We will have to see how we react when we need to replace a player . but we do have good players and will flourish under MP, this season for me is a bed in, let's get our feet under the table and than maybe next season start really to push and see where we go.

We are going to drop points against so called lower teams, we may get hammered against a couple of teams BUT we are starting to have a way of playing and this has been evident in the last 4 games, I am a little excited for the future now,

I honestly can not believe i'm typing this, 3 weeks ago I was having sleepless nights of Big Scam coming back :~)

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03 Oct 2018 12:09:47
That could be a master stroke ZABALETTA at CDM or MASUAKU or FREDERICKS could play there if desperate. COYI.

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03 Oct 2018 12:52:47
Sorry Whorya, but Masuaku cannot defend, great going forward but as a defender your first job is to defend. He just cannot defend!

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03 Oct 2018 14:36:43
It is so tough to have a top quality squad of players these days, with strength in depth in all positions, especially for teams outside the top 6, funds are just not there given the huge fees on players and agents these days. Credit goes to the managers when they get the balance right. What is more important, a stand out player at £40m who could be hit and miss, or even get injured, or a decent squad of players to compete with each other? I suppose it depends on the base squad you already have, and the total funds you have, but it is a tough balance to get right each window.
To compare the cost of our "squad" of defensive players to Man City's, the total transfer fees we have paid for our whole defensive group of players (2xGK, 4xCB, 2xRB, 2xLB and 2xDM) is £61.6m (from transfermarket) . Man City paid £58.5m on Laporte alone! The total cost of our starting 11 vs Man Utd was £118m, while Pogba and Fellaini alone cost them £124m.
I think our transfer business this summer is proving to be great.

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05 Oct 2018 09:31:34
Philmac, Regards your 1 October post,
where is Wilshere going to fit in after injury, my answer is, he simply won’t fit in anywhere and we honestly shouldn’t have had the problem as we shouldn’t have signed a crock! I have a very low opinion of him, a number on here rate him, I don’t, he’s his own biggest fan👎Thought I was in the minority, however looking for team news tonight, a related article by Tony Cascarino slated the signing saying "he was flabbergasted he was given such a lucrative contract given his poor injury record, he was a vanity signing, also WH have looked so much better without him and he is not suited to today’s Premiership standards due to fitness" etc.

Also he’s not the only ex pro to state that, our ex Dean Ashton had severe doubts about Wilshere, he was excellent maybe up to a couple of years ago, but not now, frightened to run and get tackled in case of affecting a reoccurrence! Massive waste of financial resources!

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05 Oct 2018 16:34:28
Fair play Chelms, you have stuck by your opinion of JW. And as a Hammers fan I am sure you equally hope he proves you wrong and turns out great for us. What fan wouldnt.
Tony Cascarino was a bit unfair IMO. Saying West Ham have been better without him was a bit short sighted. Its true that we have been better since his injury, but unfair to suggest the improvement was because of Jack's absence. In those first 4 games NONE of the players (with the exception of Fabianski) were particularly impressive, and all the players were tactically adjusting and getting to know each other. People layed into Rice after the Liverpool game when he played DM, look at him now. I hope/ think Jack will be equally as good or even better than Noble and Obiang so long as Dec continues his fine form in DM.

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05 Oct 2018 17:09:46
Nickino, that’s a very fair and honest assessment you have posted, you must be a very fair and patient man👍I don’t think it at all fair myself when well known personalities hang others in public knowing that possibly millions will read them, hopefully my own comments on JW is only read by a very small amount of people. As you say I would love JW to make me look a real mug and turn into a great signing🙈🙈will be nervously watching tonight hoping we can carry our form over to the Amex stadium tonight👍COYI⚒⚒⚒⚒.

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06 Oct 2018 11:59:05
I said if desperate John regarding masuaku mate.

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30 Sep 2018 20:40:10
Kings of Leon should make a new song in West Ham are on fire as you boys are are certainly on fire. I’m dreading our upcoming games at the Fatima whitbread stadium as I think you boys will turn us over twice next month. I said last season all West Ham need is a top manager and spend some money on top quality and the sky’s the limit for this sleeping giant. Boys I give it large on most sites but I’m also an honest poster and tell it how it is.

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01 Oct 2018 10:56:06
Thanks Raver. let's hope. But I am not as confident now Kane found his scoring boots again. we can but keep our fingers crossed.

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29 Sep 2018 15:44:15
Hi ed, don't know wether you got that or want to print. Martial arguing with Mourinho in corridor after game. IRONMIKE.

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29 Sep 2018 16:04:43
The odds on Jm leaving must be very short now mike, the club looks adrift . No wonder there is infighting.

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29 Sep 2018 16:13:48
He will or a couple of players will, one way or another. IRONMIKE.

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29 Sep 2018 16:31:34
Time for the board to make there position known.

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26 Sep 2018 22:03:05
Very enjoyable long time since we have scored that many BUT please keep cool Macclesfield are propping up the whole football league but there again nothing like scoring a lot of goals to give confidence, nice very nice kids played very well very promising let's hope onwards and upwards. IRONMIKE.

{Ed002's Note - But regardless Mike a real boost for confidence.}

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26 Sep 2018 22:48:30
Yep, but I don’t get carried away, there’s more confidence going through the club, now and good feeling we need to carry this forward and climb the table IRONMIKE.

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27 Sep 2018 04:25:24
Hoping the increased confidence and the Mourinho/ Pogba affair, all works for us this weekend and we get another good result.

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27 Sep 2018 12:35:26
Great to watch the game last night and it took me back 30 years when I was at the Boleyn when we beat Bury scoring 10

Got to say I thought the kids were brilliant last night showed how playing together for a period really helps.

Would also like to applaud the Macclesfield fans who all stayed to the bitter end can't be easy when your bottom of the football league and losing 8 0.

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27 Sep 2018 12:44:13
Agreed, you had to laugh when Antonio got double nutmegged! IRONMIKE.

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26 Sep 2018 11:18:35
Hi all. In a behind the scenes meeting the agent of Rice has asked for exactly the terms I posted yesterday 30k a week flat for three years then rising to 35k a week next three years six year deal All the add ons to be discussed when that's agreed player wants to stay at WH very happy there FRANKLY I personally cannot see any reason why WH cannot agree to that it's simple and easy, the boy trains hard and lives a clean life what more can you ask? He's not Oxford that's been proved beyond any questions And looks like a future captain he has all the hallmarks of it No enquiries has been received as yet WH though might need a couple of enquiries to get real. IRONMIKE.

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26 Sep 2018 11:48:26
100% agree with you Michael.

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26 Sep 2018 12:26:18
That all seems reasonable to me Mike, and without doubt he will be a future captain.

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26 Sep 2018 13:36:26
Hes Rio quality and that's as cheap as chips.

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26 Sep 2018 14:25:56
Those figures seem reasonable, so can’t see why Sullivan won’t get the deal done.

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26 Sep 2018 17:37:43
it would not be west ham if we didn't make it complicated. for anybody else its a no brainer.

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26 Sep 2018 17:39:50
Hi all, just read on sky sports evening papers that Declan rice has turned down a contract worth 20k every time he plays dunno how much truth is in it as it is the papers and sky. But I really hope it’s not true, the board need to make a statement and nail this kids contract down because quite simply, he is the future and he is class. Can you shed any light mike please?

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26 Sep 2018 21:44:54
Yes his agent turned down two different offers , and stated what hiis client wants. As above, that’s it at present. IRONMIKE.

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27 Sep 2018 04:30:17
I think agents are a PITA. While I don’t disagree with you Mike, I do think if a base plus bonuses which are purely around appearances gives him almost equivalent to what he wants in base he should back himself. If all goes well he will get the money and all happy. If he doesn’t continue we don’t want another young player in the 23s on 35k a week. As fans we always think just pay the money but the club has to think about what if he doesn’t stay in the team. The fact is Rice will leave one day unless as a club we move forward so I don’t think paying what his agent asks versus a structured deal will make that difference.

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27 Sep 2018 10:36:24
Sdl, if all or most other players are in the same type of deal, smaller base salary, then bonus of £20k or whatever for every appearance, then fine, but are they, would Reid, Carroll and whoever else has the possibility of stringing out
an injury on the the sick bench not try too hard about fitness, not to difficult to feign some delayed recovery! That is s perfectly good reason to have a smaller base, then appearance increments, but make it a level playing field? It can cause unrest amongst players when such a disparity in earnings! I often wondered why Sakho didn’t play often enough when he was clearly capable of scoring goals, he then accused the management that it was because they didn’t want to pay him bonus appearances? What the truth was I don’t know? But I also remember Ed backing his story by quoting that “ a lot of under 23 players were on more than his £25k per week wage” so he was entitled to have the hump!

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27 Sep 2018 12:14:29
Chelmsford I don’t disagree with what you are saying but he is 19 not 29. Yes if others in the 23s are paid more he will feel a bit agrieved but because we have made mistakes doesn’t mean we need to keep making them. It’s sll in how it’s delivered and 20k per week plus 10k appearance money plus say a 5k increase after 15 matches plus some guaranteed increase if he stays after another season or two could work out better for him but still protect the club if it doesn’t work out. How many times have we supporters moaned about the wages being paid to players who don’t play?

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27 Sep 2018 14:00:25
Wouldnt flat salaries make things soooooo much easier, just make players earn their top $$$ via performance incentives. Completely unrealistic though as it is impossible to change. I think all of us fans agree what the players earn is ludicrous, but the money is there in football to justify it. I hate what agents do to football whilst making crazy money at the same time. They bring no benefit IMO, all that money could go to so many better things.
Rice, get him signed on, 30k is a reasonable base if we want him to pen a long 6 year contract that guarantees we get a good fee for him if he reaches the heights we all hope he will in the next 2 years. If WHU wanted 4 years (2 year extension) then i could understand 20k and incentives. This being said, were i Rice, i would pen a 20k with incentives deal providing the base salary goes up after each time I reach certain number of appearances. If he performs well then the club will certainly negotiate a new deal when there are 2-3 years left on it, which is not long away.

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27 Sep 2018 21:51:20
Sdl, your last paragraph about “ players not playing being paid etc. was the point I am making about a level playing field for all! Appreciate Sdl very difficult, players milking lucrative contracts, have we not taken a bigger gamble on Wilshere which I think is s bad joke! But if other clubs come in, especially a London club with a massive hike in basic salary, we can safely assume that he will at least seriously consider it no matter how much “ he loves the club” bearing in mind Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, are seriously more successful clubs than our 'also rans'.

That is my realistic view! If they really wanted shot of Oxford, I believe they had offers but decided to decline, will we sit on the fence when this happens with other young outstanding talent! If I remember Joe Cole was offered an unprecedented contract at the age of 16/17, but of course DGS were more into the early days of porn😂😂⚒⚒⚒.

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28 Sep 2018 07:51:47
Story in papers he's rejected 40k, this is why I started this post by asking Mike. can't believe a word in them.

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28 Sep 2018 11:04:15
Under 23 players on 25,000 a week I’m sorry but that’s one story I don’t believe till I’ve read facts.

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